In today’s comic, Flora states the facts.
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Flora: Aside from Talitha, there’s something else I think that you should know, Colin.
Colin: What's That?
Flora: Well, I’ve allowed a tiny little change in the dress code.
Colin: What, are they going to run around the house in their undies? I suppose I can be okay with that.
Flora: Something like that...
Colin: Well, what is it then?
Flora: Well, let me say this first, Colin...
Flora: I’m only doing this because I want Benni comfortable so he’ll open up about his past, but anyhow, I’m going to let the boys be naked while they’re in the house.
Colin: You're WHAT?
Flora: I’ve only allowed the bedroom, for now.
Colin: Flora! You can’t just let them run around naked. Especially in their room, alone! Do you know what boys do when they can get naked in their room?
Flora: They masturbate?
Colin: They masturbate!
Flora: So what, Colin? I mean you instill the fear of man into your kits so they won’t do it, but you can’t stop them from figuring it out, and they will figure it out.
Colin: That’s what scares me, Flora. I think mine already have!
Colin: What's That?
Flora: Well, I’ve allowed a tiny little change in the dress code.
Colin: What, are they going to run around the house in their undies? I suppose I can be okay with that.
Flora: Something like that...
Colin: Well, what is it then?
Flora: Well, let me say this first, Colin...
Flora: I’m only doing this because I want Benni comfortable so he’ll open up about his past, but anyhow, I’m going to let the boys be naked while they’re in the house.
Colin: You're WHAT?
Flora: I’ve only allowed the bedroom, for now.
Colin: Flora! You can’t just let them run around naked. Especially in their room, alone! Do you know what boys do when they can get naked in their room?
Flora: They masturbate?
Colin: They masturbate!
Flora: So what, Colin? I mean you instill the fear of man into your kits so they won’t do it, but you can’t stop them from figuring it out, and they will figure it out.
Colin: That’s what scares me, Flora. I think mine already have!
Masturbation! *dun dun dun!
I adore the sassy Flora look in panel four. Kalab does that look well. Honestly I love to stop and admire each fun facial expression.
I was going to say something similar about Flora’s expression.
I approve of Flora, panel 4, all of the dialogue, and masturbation (not necessarily in that order)
Well, I must admit that Flora is a little far out, even for this strip.
When Kinsey and Co. came out with the Kinsey Report in the 1940s or 1950s sceintists and psychologists were already seeing that almost all men had self sex, and that it didnt harm anyone. The harm came from both fixating on it, and from pornography, which is still a very big issue and a dangerous problem, even today. Sex shaming is very damaging, and confusing to children, especially when we are told our bodies are made in G-d’s image, yet are schooled that we must go forth and multiply, but sex is evil, havng normal hormonal driven urges is evil,… Read more »
It should be noted that Kinsey’s research was actually poorly done and much of his results have since been discredited by later studies. Despite what political demagogues say, there is no such thing as “the science is settled”. Sir Isaac Newton’s Laws Of Thermodynamics have since proven not to be valid in many situations for that matter. As for sex shaming, even though you’ve read this webcomic you sound shockingly naïve about sexuality. Sex is not a safe activity; there are such issues as venereal disease and unwanted pregnancy. Look at what happens in this comic when you are a… Read more »
I saw nothing in his post eschewing self-discipline, merely that sex-shaming is a harmful way to go about instilling that discipline. In fact, would even assert it is antithetical to that goal.
Re. Thermodynamics, are you referring to Newton’s law of cooling?
In answer to your second question, I meant to say Newton’s Laws Of Motion. I regret the error.
https://www.livescience.com/46558-laws-of-motion.html
As for shaming, it is no worse than, say, shaming a child for not using proper hygiene or etiquette. Or shaming people into not driving while intoxicated. Do you think that people do bad things because they don’t know better, or that they think they can get away with it? Why do you think both Talitha’s and Benni’s fathers have been traveling from place to place over time?
//As for shaming, it is no worse than, say, shaming a child for not using proper hygiene or etiquette.// Yes, yes it is. I’m terribly sorry to break that news to you, but, psychologically speaking, it is, indeed, harmful to be telling people to be ashamed of their bodies, sex, sexuality, and so on. Telling them not to do it in public, certainly, but telling them they’re ‘dirty dirty boys’ for wanting to touch themselves, that’s just vile to do. Psychological studies have shown such, comparing the mental health of people who have grown up in the puritan-damaged society of… Read more »
I meant Newton’s Laws of Motion. My error.
I think shaming is a necessity, just as you shame your child into having good etiquette or doing their homework or brushing their teeth, Shaming is the way to discourage people from doing bad things like driving while intoxicated. I’m sure Benni’s and Talitha’s respective fathers were not unaware that what they did to their children was very morally wrong-why did they find the need to suddenly relocate?
I know this is an old comment but I felt like I had to say my piece about this comment and some other comments you made here. You seem to think that the only options when it comes to teaching about sex is either shaming or being sexually loose, as if there’s no in-between; you can sex-positive and also be sexually responsible and you can do so without shaming people about their bodies; simply lay out the facts and risks that come with sex and tell people how to make responsible decisions. This same concept applies with anything; stick to… Read more »
I don’t think there’s any therapy that Colin can get for his situation
Welp, thats basically what i meant in the last panels comments… Colin is in a shock state cause of the rape and flora throws one shocking dact after the other onto him, so he can get more and more upset until he breaks D:
Some people don’t handle stress as well as others. She’s probably loading it on him now because it gets worse to let people know this stuff later, or if they don’t get told and find out accidentally, like how upset he was that she didnt’ tell him tanya was raped.
He’s not acting like he’s at a breaking point, but he is stressed to the point of overreaction.
It’s not like she wasn’t going to tell him. Although Brenda mentioned her thoughts on it, Flora wouldn’t want to talk about it with Bonnie and Kaleb being in the room.
I think Flora is doing a credible job, she is dealing with her own fears; financial, safety for Caleb– despite having two cubs in her house that dont know proper boundaries, having been whored out by their parents.
Not sure what Colin’s freak is for, medical research has shown it to be healthy for the most part, or not injurious. Or even beneficial.
Colin is just lashing out to try to grasp the enormity of his problems. Its a rough row he’ll have to hoe, im afraid.
First his Son, and now his Daughter. He does have it rough.
I’m actually finding Flora’s reaction to be rather enlightened. If something is forbidden, it makes it that much more of a thrill, and because of the potential guilt, Kaleb, Benni, and now Talitha won’t come to her if…or when…they have questions. By treating it, and the kits, in this manner, she’s encouraging them to come to her with questions so that she may steer them to a healthy outlook on their bodies, others, and sex, which will help them understand things better and dispel the strange notions that others may have. I’ve never liked how various religions turn the aspect… Read more »
Something natural be terrible? Like asbestos and arsenic?
Or for that matter the desire to punch someone in the snoot who breathes peppermint in your face?
I suppose I should have specified ‘natural behavior’. Be nice. I hadn’t had any coffee yet… 😉
Natural behavior is not always desirable. One could call child molesters’ behaviors natural as well. No society of any type can exist without compulsion and intolerance.
Poison dart frogs, arsenic, cadmium, are not evil, they are natural. And in general the body takes care of all of that in its natural course. What is UnNatural, is our blithely concentrating it, and putting it everywhere in our close environments. Asbestos makes a great insulator, but really doesn’t need to be in our siding shingles, our roofing shingles, in the floor tiles in our schools, and plating cadmium on all the nails nuts and bolts to keep them from rusting. Even zinc isn’t good for you in high doses yet it is an important metabolite. The toxicity comes… Read more »
Siamese twins are natural too. Does that mean we don’t separate them?
I really like Flora’s totally calm way of approaching things. However, I personally have two objections to this interaction. Number one: I don’t think a normal person would go straight from dumping a bomb like your son is going to be staying with the girl who molested him, to saying oh by the way I’m going to let the boys be naked. And I assume she intends to let Hunter be naked too. It literally feels as though there’s an entire strip or two missing from the conversation. Number two: Why does Flora only mention that she’s going to let… Read more »
A normal person isn’t limited to 5 frames per conversation, either. 😉 She’s basically warning Colin that nudity will happen, whether Hunter joins in or not, so whether Colin allows that is up to him, but it would be in her best interest to let him know as full disclosure. As far as number two: Keep in mind that Talitha is only there on a temporary basis right now. Flora has allowed it in a one-off instance because of the situation, so it may not be her intention to block Tali entirely from it, but she has to assess Tali… Read more »
That all makes a lot of sense. Truthfully I don’t know who Talitha is gonna live with, considering her scum father is going away (hopefully), but I suppose there might be other relatives to come take her. Of course she’d probably have a thing or two to say about being separated from Benni. I guess we’ll just have to see. I’ll be the first to admit that it is super hard not to get to know how the conversation will continue until next week. I wish we got more content, but in less frequent doses. Like, a massive dump of… Read more »
She’ll probably go home with her mother.
I love the dialogue from this comic so much
BTW, is there an equivalent in this ‘verse for the Negro/Caucasian tensions in RL America?
I already responded to that question. (See the upper left corner under ‘recent comments’.)
Sorry, didn’t notice that, and didn’t know how to get back to where I had originally asked it (glad you got that glitch sorted out).
I don’t think this is supposed to be like Kevin and Kell where sentient beings eat each other, or are hybrid animals. Youi cannot really talk about race relations along human lines in a funny animal comic.
I couldn’t help but lol at the third panel. Flora is very chill and understanding as a parent.