Tanya needs therapy.
Benni needs protection from being sexually manipulated by adults and Tanya.
Colin needs an education in child rearing.
One big dysfunctional family.
I can understand how Benni knows so much about sexual acts, but how did 9 year old Tanya learn so much? She went from being raped to being the one that is raping in such a short period of time.
Not to mention that Colin has allowed the situation to get out of hand in a manner of minutes.
Please don’t call Tanya a rapist or compare her to the people who hurt Benni; Tanya just lacks restraint straint and doesn’t really see the full scope of what she’s doing, while the men who abused Benni were grown men who knew exactly what they were doing. As for Tanya’s knowledge of sex, I don’t think she does know that much;she simply asked Benni to “play with her” but didn’t specify any kind of act; Benni probably just did what he’d been taught to do. As for Colin, he had no way of knowing how far things would go; I… Read more »
This is completely an understandably unexpected situation; One that, unfortunately happens irl.
My daughter’s oldest foster child kept trying to get her little brother to do this to her.
It was the first real indication that she had been abused sexually; even the CPS investigation of her mother (the children were removed over drug use, but the family situation was *thoroughly* investigated) didn’t turn up any hint of it.
I mean, Tanya doesn’t know restraint (yet) and Benni doesn’t see this as abnormal since he has been forced to do things like this for a long time:
I guess Colin needs to start properly explaining that this is something private and not some “fun game” you can just do willy-nilly with anyone just because it feels good.
LookieLouE1707
2 years ago
#3494
So when benni does it it’s a three alarm fire – “masters help me!” And when he has it done to him it’s nothing worse than “maybe you should give benni a break” … Alrighty then.
Interesting phrase btw, “masters help me” – does that imply this is a planet of the apes/animal farm scenario? They used to have human masters they broke away from?
I believe it was stated their world was once our world but then something happened that killed all the humans off and caused the other animals to evolve and now they only remember humanity as some kind of godlike figures and they’re basically reliving human history but with Brady’s as the dominant species.
Colin, it’s time to enforce punishment and have a good hard discussion about why they can’t do what they are doing. Otherwise Tanya is going to become a sexual predator. One thing I do agree with what Timmie said, is that Tanya AND Benni needs counseling and Bennie needs to learn when it’s appropriate for such activities, like when he is older. Both kits have been violated in the wrong ways and they need help in learning how to get over and how to cope what happened.
I’m kind of curious if Tanya’s current actions and behavior are the way they are as a result of the trauma she experienced, or if it’s because: A, Benni’s her hero for saving her from far worse, and B, the previously strict rules against nudity and such have been lifted and she’s got a lot more freedom now.
Basically the question is, maybe Tanya has always been like this and simply had no outlet until now? Maybe after a few days she’ll calm down as the newness and thrill wears off?
Maybe a swat on the rump to get her attention. Growing up as military kid, my mom was the disciplinarian (spanking, restrictions, swats etc) and my dad was hands off due to him growing up in an abusive family so he pretty much left it up to mom to mete out punishment for when my sister’s and I misbehave as he was very afrais that once he started swinging, he might not be able to stop. My one AND only paddling I got from my dad was after I planted a size 13 foot through a dining room wall during… Read more »
I’m sorry, I’m not in opposition to corporeal punishment, but this is ANYTHING but a situation where it’s appropriate or needed. Hell, I’d say this is a “you gone and done fucked up” if it WAS used here. The exploration got “out of hand” and sure, some correction might be needed, including a reminder of mindfulness of “when, where, and who”, but a physical force for kits being kits and in this case trusting Colin enough to not hide away with it? Way to shatter that trust and make sure they sneak around with their newfound awareness and probably unwarranted… Read more »
My thoughts exactly and to add to that, Colin more or less gave them permission to explore but set no boundaries on them, so if he were to then go and use physical force on Tanya to “discipline” her, what does that say to her? She’d be like “so first you said I could do this and now you’re hitting me because I did it?” It was on Colin as the adult to set parameters but he failed to do so, so that’s on him, not on her. Honestly, I feel like he had a better handle on the situation… Read more »
I think Tanya and Benni would both benefit a second talk. Tanya needs to learn restraint and needs to understand that Benni isn’t used to refusing sex and that she shouldn’t push him the way she just did. Benni needs to help learning bodily autonomy and that he refuse without consequences. I’m interested in seeing how Colin reacts in the next strip; most parents would probably have a freakout over what just happened, but somehow I feel like that would make the situation worse.
Snowfluff
2 years ago
#3499
The number of people who equate a nine year old’s lake of impulse control with a future of a rapist are incredibly disappointing.
Buddy, Tanya is 9 years old. That’s the age when we think we can get away with eating a whole box of cookies if no one is watching. there is nothing strange about a kid wanting to do something FUN.
But in my case that was because I didn’t have any friends to play with while growing up, and I honestly didn’t have a clue how to do these things to myself. I can’t say for certain what I would’ve done under different circumstances.
Well, Tanya’s in different circumstances. You probably had no real reason to know anything about sex, except in the vaguest ideas, or just the mechanical parts.Tanya, on the other hand, has had a scary experience and instead of being afraid of the dark, she’s exploring the darkness on her own terms, in what feels, to her, like a safe place to do it. Her dad gave her rules–Benni has to agree– and Benni isn’t saying no, and Tanya, being 9, is looking at this more like a kid trying to convince a friend to do something that they’re not sure… Read more »
Or maybe she wanted to understand better the assault that just happened to her and realized that “Hey, this is actually FUN to do!? Why didn’t I figure this out sooner!?”
James Bulger was lured into the woods by two older boys who violently beat, tortured snd murdered him in cold blood. How you can even compare Tanya to people like that is baffling. Look, everyone here acknowledges Tanya’s exploration went too far but that you’re trying to make her into a monster, which she is not. While she pushed Benni here, look at it from her perspective; he didn’t say “no, stop, I don’t want to do this” or “you’re making me uncomfortable” his concerns were literally “I’m not good at that” and “what if your dad sees us?” In… Read more »
The comparison was over the statement “Lack of impulse control”. Just because Tanya is 9 years old, she can still be viewed as a rapist. (yes, it is a strong word but it fits) Luring another child to commit an act they did not want to do is still exploitation. Benni was vulnerable, she took advantage of it.
I’m sorry, but I just don’t see it that way. And not just because of her age and lack of impulse, but also because of deliberation and intent. You say Tanya took advantage of his vulnerability and that’s exploitation, but that was not what she was she intended to do; Tanya wasn’t looking at Benni as a vulnerable person she could exploit, she was looking at him as a person she could explore something new with in a safe manner which she believed had been approved by her father. Tanya has no understanding of how deeply he’s been conditioned to… Read more »
“I’m not saying that she should let off the hook either, as I’ve explained already, but her intentions deserve consideration.” Quote You just admitted she did something wrong. As for intentions, she knew what she was doing as she had the “questionable books” long before the “talk”. She also knew her father would not approve. (Waited for her father to be out of the room, state she would handle her father.) What you are objecting to the the label “rapist”. Okay, that might be a little strong. Looking up the definitions, child molester might be more fitting. Either way, knowingly… Read more »
When I said she shouldn’t be let off the hook, I meant that Colin should take her aside and explain Benni’s mindset which is what I’ve been saying all along. Calling her a child molester is still too far in my mind but you seem intent on labeling her. The only thing I agree with with is that we should wait to see how Campion handles the issue.
Sir. If you can’t tell the difference between children exploring what they have been *told* is acceptable is explore and being confused over the concept of consent–something that grown-ass adult men struggle to understand–and two kids who were skipping school, shoplifting all day,and were specifically planning to abduct and murder a child, proceeded to do so, and pinned him down across a railroad track, I’m not sure what to tell you other than there are shades of gray in this world and Tanya is very far from the unmitigated evil you’re implying.
Oh, ok, it was in reply to Snowfluffs comment, so I was a little confused there 🙂
NewWorldWolf
2 years ago
#3506
If anybody is being exploited, it’s Benni, although I doubt he sees it that way. He’s just doing as he was taught. And every kit and cub understand that ‘turn about is fair play’. The thing is, while Flora has talked to Benni about how his father used and abused him, and Colin is aware of that fact, nobody specifically asked him what he’d been forced to do. His experience was rather nebulous. Not any more. As for Tanya, you can’t blame her. She’s learned that masturbation is FUN and, once that door was opened, Flora knows she’ll never close it again and has had to… Read more »
Colin’s in a rough spot regardless of how you look at it. Flora gave him a lot of knowledge, but she can’t give him the wisdom he needs to properly utilize it. He got the hardware but not the accompanying software.
Nobody *needs* to become comfortable being naked. That’s a very personal thing, and nobody has a right to dictate for someone else what they *need* to become comfortable with.
Colin may *never* be comfortable with being naked in front of others, and that’s completely okay.
Maxin
1 year ago
#3528
i am such a fan of this story! great writing and consistency on this but good lord are these characters ever just??? AGUGH!!! this is not a jab at the person MAKING these characters, its more or less just being way into the story? but colin come on! you should know not to leave your brash daughter with a meek abused kid! also champ idk if you were going for this but tanya is for sure hypersexual due to her assault, as well as talli. the adults actions are so!!! infuriating. makes you want to just shake them by the… Read more »
Campion said the story explores some pretty dark elements and what can come of them being mismanaged. Colin is doing the best he can but he’s lost at sea himself.
A grocery store manager forced to relocate and then has to deal with a bunch of raped children, including his own daughter. You expect him to handle it calmly?
Having experienced cunnilingus, courtesy of Benni’s talents and knowledge, Colin really can’t take this off Tanya menu of private delights. He can try to forbid it but it’s going to be something in the back of her mind from now on.
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they are just uncontrollable aren’t they, what a silly bunch
Well… That escalated quickly.
Tanya, you’re VERY much going to need to learn moderation kitto…
Why is the strip blurred out?
New settings due to content.
How do we unlock it? There isn’t anything to click to allow me to view it.
Well, when I opened it in another window it cleared up to be visible. Is that what we need to do or is there another option?
Just click it.
Oh! Well, that worked, too. LOL. Dealing with this old brain sometimes is difficult. Thanks for the information.
Tanya needs therapy.
Benni needs protection from being sexually manipulated by adults and Tanya.
Colin needs an education in child rearing.
One big dysfunctional family.
I can understand how Benni knows so much about sexual acts, but how did 9 year old Tanya learn so much? She went from being raped to being the one that is raping in such a short period of time.
Not to mention that Colin has allowed the situation to get out of hand in a manner of minutes.
Please don’t call Tanya a rapist or compare her to the people who hurt Benni; Tanya just lacks restraint straint and doesn’t really see the full scope of what she’s doing, while the men who abused Benni were grown men who knew exactly what they were doing. As for Tanya’s knowledge of sex, I don’t think she does know that much;she simply asked Benni to “play with her” but didn’t specify any kind of act; Benni probably just did what he’d been taught to do. As for Colin, he had no way of knowing how far things would go; I… Read more »
This is completely an understandably unexpected situation; One that, unfortunately happens irl.
My daughter’s oldest foster child kept trying to get her little brother to do this to her.
It was the first real indication that she had been abused sexually; even the CPS investigation of her mother (the children were removed over drug use, but the family situation was *thoroughly* investigated) didn’t turn up any hint of it.
I mean, Tanya doesn’t know restraint (yet) and Benni doesn’t see this as abnormal since he has been forced to do things like this for a long time:
I guess Colin needs to start properly explaining that this is something private and not some “fun game” you can just do willy-nilly with anyone just because it feels good.
So when benni does it it’s a three alarm fire – “masters help me!” And when he has it done to him it’s nothing worse than “maybe you should give benni a break” … Alrighty then.
Interesting phrase btw, “masters help me” – does that imply this is a planet of the apes/animal farm scenario? They used to have human masters they broke away from?
I believe it was stated their world was once our world but then something happened that killed all the humans off and caused the other animals to evolve and now they only remember humanity as some kind of godlike figures and they’re basically reliving human history but with Brady’s as the dominant species.
Colin, it’s time to enforce punishment and have a good hard discussion about why they can’t do what they are doing. Otherwise Tanya is going to become a sexual predator. One thing I do agree with what Timmie said, is that Tanya AND Benni needs counseling and Bennie needs to learn when it’s appropriate for such activities, like when he is older. Both kits have been violated in the wrong ways and they need help in learning how to get over and how to cope what happened.
I’m kind of curious if Tanya’s current actions and behavior are the way they are as a result of the trauma she experienced, or if it’s because: A, Benni’s her hero for saving her from far worse, and B, the previously strict rules against nudity and such have been lifted and she’s got a lot more freedom now.
Basically the question is, maybe Tanya has always been like this and simply had no outlet until now? Maybe after a few days she’ll calm down as the newness and thrill wears off?
I would say C. Both. Tanya needs a hard paw curbing her activities
Are you seriously suggesting that Colin hits her for this?
Well a Gibbs-style bonk on the head might help get her full and undivided attention. But you don’t wanna do it so hard that it lingers.
Yes a good swat or cuff could be enough to get Tanya to learn a lesson, especially if Colin has never raised a paw in anger to punish the kits.
Look at my reply to Krayton for why I think the way I am thinking.
Maybe a swat on the rump to get her attention. Growing up as military kid, my mom was the disciplinarian (spanking, restrictions, swats etc) and my dad was hands off due to him growing up in an abusive family so he pretty much left it up to mom to mete out punishment for when my sister’s and I misbehave as he was very afrais that once he started swinging, he might not be able to stop. My one AND only paddling I got from my dad was after I planted a size 13 foot through a dining room wall during… Read more »
I’m sorry, I’m not in opposition to corporeal punishment, but this is ANYTHING but a situation where it’s appropriate or needed. Hell, I’d say this is a “you gone and done fucked up” if it WAS used here. The exploration got “out of hand” and sure, some correction might be needed, including a reminder of mindfulness of “when, where, and who”, but a physical force for kits being kits and in this case trusting Colin enough to not hide away with it? Way to shatter that trust and make sure they sneak around with their newfound awareness and probably unwarranted… Read more »
My thoughts exactly and to add to that, Colin more or less gave them permission to explore but set no boundaries on them, so if he were to then go and use physical force on Tanya to “discipline” her, what does that say to her? She’d be like “so first you said I could do this and now you’re hitting me because I did it?” It was on Colin as the adult to set parameters but he failed to do so, so that’s on him, not on her. Honestly, I feel like he had a better handle on the situation… Read more »
I think Tanya and Benni would both benefit a second talk. Tanya needs to learn restraint and needs to understand that Benni isn’t used to refusing sex and that she shouldn’t push him the way she just did. Benni needs to help learning bodily autonomy and that he refuse without consequences. I’m interested in seeing how Colin reacts in the next strip; most parents would probably have a freakout over what just happened, but somehow I feel like that would make the situation worse.
The number of people who equate a nine year old’s lake of impulse control with a future of a rapist are incredibly disappointing.
Buddy, Tanya is 9 years old. That’s the age when we think we can get away with eating a whole box of cookies if no one is watching. there is nothing strange about a kid wanting to do something FUN.
Like, does no one remember what being 9 was like?
Heck, every childhood wish fulfillment movie is like that. Blank Check, anyone?
SO true. Like, even the first chunk of home alone 2.
I do, but I didn’t do anything like Tanya did.
Neither did I.
But in my case that was because I didn’t have any friends to play with while growing up, and I honestly didn’t have a clue how to do these things to myself. I can’t say for certain what I would’ve done under different circumstances.
I had friends, but other than basic sex education sexuality was limited to boy germs and girl germs.
Well, Tanya’s in different circumstances. You probably had no real reason to know anything about sex, except in the vaguest ideas, or just the mechanical parts.Tanya, on the other hand, has had a scary experience and instead of being afraid of the dark, she’s exploring the darkness on her own terms, in what feels, to her, like a safe place to do it. Her dad gave her rules–Benni has to agree– and Benni isn’t saying no, and Tanya, being 9, is looking at this more like a kid trying to convince a friend to do something that they’re not sure… Read more »
Maybe Tanya got kicked into overdrive because she can more freely masturbate without it hurting now?
Or maybe she wanted to understand better the assault that just happened to her and realized that “Hey, this is actually FUN to do!? Why didn’t I figure this out sooner!?”
Setting off a couple of smoke bombs in the elevator before the doors opened and running out the resulting cloud thinking nobody saw you.
So a child’s lack of impulse control is the excuse to not call it rape? Tell that to James Patrick Bulger.
There is a difference between a small child and a grown adult. Ray or Tibron would be better comparisons.
James Bulger was lured into the woods by two older boys who violently beat, tortured snd murdered him in cold blood. How you can even compare Tanya to people like that is baffling. Look, everyone here acknowledges Tanya’s exploration went too far but that you’re trying to make her into a monster, which she is not. While she pushed Benni here, look at it from her perspective; he didn’t say “no, stop, I don’t want to do this” or “you’re making me uncomfortable” his concerns were literally “I’m not good at that” and “what if your dad sees us?” In… Read more »
The comparison was over the statement “Lack of impulse control”. Just because Tanya is 9 years old, she can still be viewed as a rapist. (yes, it is a strong word but it fits) Luring another child to commit an act they did not want to do is still exploitation. Benni was vulnerable, she took advantage of it.
I’m sorry, but I just don’t see it that way. And not just because of her age and lack of impulse, but also because of deliberation and intent. You say Tanya took advantage of his vulnerability and that’s exploitation, but that was not what she was she intended to do; Tanya wasn’t looking at Benni as a vulnerable person she could exploit, she was looking at him as a person she could explore something new with in a safe manner which she believed had been approved by her father. Tanya has no understanding of how deeply he’s been conditioned to… Read more »
“I’m not saying that she should let off the hook either, as I’ve explained already, but her intentions deserve consideration.” Quote You just admitted she did something wrong. As for intentions, she knew what she was doing as she had the “questionable books” long before the “talk”. She also knew her father would not approve. (Waited for her father to be out of the room, state she would handle her father.) What you are objecting to the the label “rapist”. Okay, that might be a little strong. Looking up the definitions, child molester might be more fitting. Either way, knowingly… Read more »
When I said she shouldn’t be let off the hook, I meant that Colin should take her aside and explain Benni’s mindset which is what I’ve been saying all along. Calling her a child molester is still too far in my mind but you seem intent on labeling her. The only thing I agree with with is that we should wait to see how Campion handles the issue.
Methinks he doth project too much.
I know, right?
Sir. If you can’t tell the difference between children exploring what they have been *told* is acceptable is explore and being confused over the concept of consent–something that grown-ass adult men struggle to understand–and two kids who were skipping school, shoplifting all day,and were specifically planning to abduct and murder a child, proceeded to do so, and pinned him down across a railroad track, I’m not sure what to tell you other than there are shades of gray in this world and Tanya is very far from the unmitigated evil you’re implying.
Well put.
That was a Karen rant if ever I saw one. How about you?
Who? Snowfluffs?
Nope, Timmie. He’s the one that seems pretty convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that Tanya’s nothing but a merciless, remorseless rapist.
Oh, ok, it was in reply to Snowfluffs comment, so I was a little confused there 🙂
If anybody is being exploited, it’s Benni, although I doubt he sees it that way. He’s just doing as he was taught. And every kit and cub understand that ‘turn about is fair play’. The thing is, while Flora has talked to Benni about how his father used and abused him, and Colin is aware of that fact, nobody specifically asked him what he’d been forced to do. His experience was rather nebulous. Not any more. As for Tanya, you can’t blame her. She’s learned that masturbation is FUN and, once that door was opened, Flora knows she’ll never close it again and has had to… Read more »
Colin’s in a rough spot regardless of how you look at it. Flora gave him a lot of knowledge, but she can’t give him the wisdom he needs to properly utilize it. He got the hardware but not the accompanying software.
I would disagree with only one thing:
Nobody *needs* to become comfortable being naked. That’s a very personal thing, and nobody has a right to dictate for someone else what they *need* to become comfortable with.
Colin may *never* be comfortable with being naked in front of others, and that’s completely okay.
i am such a fan of this story! great writing and consistency on this but good lord are these characters ever just??? AGUGH!!! this is not a jab at the person MAKING these characters, its more or less just being way into the story? but colin come on! you should know not to leave your brash daughter with a meek abused kid! also champ idk if you were going for this but tanya is for sure hypersexual due to her assault, as well as talli. the adults actions are so!!! infuriating. makes you want to just shake them by the… Read more »
To be fair, Benni is anything but Meek.
in this instance, he can go from a huge fucking baby badass to just a shy poor kid. love him
Campion said the story explores some pretty dark elements and what can come of them being mismanaged. Colin is doing the best he can but he’s lost at sea himself.
A grocery store manager forced to relocate and then has to deal with a bunch of raped children, including his own daughter. You expect him to handle it calmly?
Having experienced cunnilingus, courtesy of Benni’s talents and knowledge, Colin really can’t take this off Tanya menu of private delights. He can try to forbid it but it’s going to be something in the back of her mind from now on.
ngl thats what i love about it, even the adults in the story don’t have all the answers. its so messed up and and upsetting to see.
Colin: D’OH!!
Another wonderful day of parenting.